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Cosmological Dialogue Concerning God’s Existence

March 9, 2015 by Prayson Daniel

Picasso The Guitarist
Jane: Leibniz stated that “[w]hatever is not from something else is from itself, or from its own essence.”1 Would you agree with the axiom that everything that exists has an explanation of its existence either in the necessity of its own nature or in an external cause?

John: Yes. Given the Principle of Sufficient Reason, I would agree with that axiom.

Jane: Would you also agree that if the cosmos has an explanation of its existence, then that explanation is in an external cause?

John: No. I side with Peter Atkins on this one. Are you familiar with his Cosmic Bootstrap?

Jane: Cosmic boostrap! No. I am not. Please, enlighten me with his view.

John: Atkins hold that “[s]pace-time generates its own dust in the process of its own self-assembly.”2 The cosmos caused itself.

Jane: How is that possible?

John: Well, just like the way Stephen Hawking stated in Laura Roberts’ 2010 article.

Jane: You mean: “Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist.”2

John: Yes! I agree with Hawking. The cosmos caused itself.

Jane: Is that not absurd, John. Think with me. If we say Picasso caused The Old Guitarist painting into existence, are we not assuming the existence of Picasso to explain the Old Guitarist painting?

John: Yes, I believe we are.

Jane:  Don’t you see, then, the absurdity in saying something like The Old Guitarist painting caused itself?

John: Mh! I see your point, Jane. You are saying that we will be assuming the existence of The Old Guitarist painting to explain the existence of The Old Guitarist painting, right?

Jane: Yes. If the cosmos caused itself, then the cosmos was already in existence to cause its own existence. That is absurd, John.

John: Well Jane, Hawking’s said, given a law such as gravity, it would cause itself.

Jane: I do not see how that rescues it for this absurdity, John. Do laws have causal power?

John: Clarify your question?

Jane: Okay. Consider, for example, the law of composition. The total acceleration an object undergoes equals vector sum of all the contributions to its acceleration. Do you think the law of composition has any causal power?

John: No. But it is the law of gravity. Not the law of composition.

Jane: Okay!  Consider the law of gravity. An object located at a distance r from a system of mass M experiences a contribution to its acceleration aG =GM/r2. Does such a law have any causal power?

John: Mh!

Jane: Is it not a statement of fact describing natural phenomenon that occurs when certain conditions are met?

John: I see, I see. It is absurd to hold that the cosmos created itself.

Jane: Good. So, if everything that exists has an explanation of its existence either in the necessity of its own nature or in an external cause, and we grant that the cosmos has an explanation for its existence, would you agree that the explanation of its existence is in an external cause?

John: Yes. Since I believe that it is most likely than not that the cosmos began to exist some billions years ago, then I do not have a choice than to agree with you, Jane.

Jane: Brilliant. I just finished reading a paper submitted on April 4th of 2014 by Dongshan Hem Dongfend Gao and Qing-yu Cai. They summarized what I think is becoming a consensus view in cosmology as follows: “With the lambda-cold dark matter (ΛCDM) model and all available observations (cosmic microwave background, abundance of light elements), it has been widely accepted that the universe was created in a big bang.”4

John: I had my doubts on this topic. But after I read Mithani’s and Vilenkin’s paper in 2012 arguing that the universe must have had a beginning, I am inclined to hold that it is most likely than not that the universe began to exist.

Jane: Okay then. Would you agree that if all space-time began to exist a finite time ago, then the external cause of the cosmos must have the characteristics of being non-physical, immaterial, and space-time-less (beyond space and time prior to the beginning of the cosmos)?

John:  You could say that.

Jane: John, such properties are of a being that theists understand to be of God.

John: I see. But then if everything that exists has an explanation of its existence, what is the explanation of God’s existence?

Jane: Theists would say God’s existence has an explanation of His existence in the necessity of His own nature.

John: Mh! I see. Unless I deny that the cosmos had a beginning, I cannot say the cosmos has an explanation of its existence in the necessity of its own nature.

Jane: No. If the cosmos began to exist, then it is a contingent being. Therefore you cannot explain it by the necessity of its own nature.

Those in doubt about any of Jane’s assumptions (e.g. the principle of sufficient reason & beginning of the universe) may take her main conclusion conditionally. Is Jane’s argument for existence of God as a space-timeless, immaterial and non-physical being persuasive? Would it change an atheist’s mind? No. I use Jane-like argument not to persuade my readers to change their beliefs, but to offer reasons why theists believe what they believe. I use such arguments not to persuade others but to offer justification for my belief in God.

 Footnotes:

[1] A VI, iv, 1769, trans. Loemker, 199

[2] Atkins 1994, 143

[3] Roberts, L. Stephen Hawking: God was not needed to create the Universe. Telegraph. Posted on telegraph.co.uk September 2, 2010, accessed September 3, 2014.

[4] arXiv:1404.1207

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Filed Under: Arguments for God, Cosmological Arguments, Leibnizian Cosmological Argument, Principle of Sufficient Reason

Comments

  1. David Roemer says

    April 2, 2015 at 12:02 am

    The cosmological argument for God’s existence is based on the observation that humans have free will and are finite beings. The Big Bang is evidence that God does not exist because it is evidence that the universe is not intelligible. It is an argument, not a proof. But the argument is only relevant if you are trying to decide if God might punish us for our sins or reward us with Heaven after we die. An atheists can rationally say, “I don’t believe in life after death because the cosmological argument is not persuasive.” Atheists, however, do not say this. What they say is, “I don’t know whether or not God exists.”

    • Prayson W Daniel says

      April 2, 2015 at 8:32 am

      Thank you for your comment. As presented in this article, cosmological arguments do not base on observation that humans are free agents nor finite beings. These are premises it is based:

      1. Whatever exists has an explanation of its existence either by necessasity of its own nature or external cause.

      The truthness of 1. is independent from the truthness of whether or not humans are free agents or finite being. Thus it is not true that it depends on such observation. Moreover, 1. does not depend on the truthness of the big bang theory.

      2. The cosmos began to exist. As 1 it does not depend of the state or nature of human agents nor Big Bang theory. Any expanding space-time model, being Big Bang, inflation etc must be finite in the past.

      No one claimed that the universe is intelligent. I believe you might have confused another argument, teleological arguments, that claimed that the universe is intelligently designed. Nonetheless intelligently design universe does not mean the universe is intelligent, nay, it means that the agent responsible for such design is intelligent being.

      God punishing sin is beyond natural theology. That is Revelational theology. It is beyond the scope of this article, thus I would not address.

      Thank you for your comment, David.

      • David Roemer says

        April 2, 2015 at 12:09 pm

        We are both talking about the cosmological argument, not the argument from design. It was started by Aristotle who spoke of a “prime mover.” Thomas Aquinas substituted “first cause” for prime mover. In the 1920s Etienne Gilson explained why this argument makes no sense because it just raises the question: What caused God? He showed that the metaphysics of Thomas leads to God’s existence. The real cosmological argument is: Finite beings exist. Finite beings need a cause. Hence, and infinite being exists. The reasons finite beings exist is that humans have free will. Free will means we possess a center of action that unifies us with respect to ourselves and makes us different from other humans.

        • Prayson W Daniel says

          April 3, 2015 at 4:50 am

          Yes, they are a family of cosmological arguments. There is not just one of it. 🙂

          • David Roemer says

            April 3, 2015 at 12:13 pm

            What has happened to CAA’s Facebook page? I thought this was a Catholic group and posted a letter I wrote to Caritas in Veritate International about the Shroud of Turin. I started a discussion with Eric Rowe and Brad Cooper, and all of a sudden the discussion ended?

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