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What Caused God?

November 4, 2012 by Henry William

Michelangelo's *Creation of Adam* (cropped and distorted)Adam: Chris, ear­lier in our con­ver­sa­tion you said that phys­i­cal real­ity must’ve been caused by something—either by God or by some­thing like God. Right?

Chris: Yeah, that’s right.

Adam: That’s all very well. But then what caused God?

Chris: I’m not entirely sure I under­stand your ques­tion. Can you elab­o­rate a bit?

Adam: Well, take the so-called argu­ment for a personal cause of the universe from the origin of physical reality that believ­ers love to use:

(1) Every­thing that exists has a cause.

(2) Phys­i­cal real­ity exists.

(3) (So) phys­i­cal real­ity has a cause.

(4) If phys­i­cal real­ity has a cause, phys­i­cal real­ity has a per­sonal cause.

(5) (So) phys­i­cal real­ity has a per­sonal cause.

Do you see how, if every­thing that exists has a cause and God exists, God must have a cause?

Chris: Yes, I can see what you mean. But where did you get that argu­ment from, Adam?

Adam: A Chris­t­ian friend of mine sent it to me just after I became an atheist.

Chris: Ah, I see. There’s some­thing you need to under­stand, though: no philoso­pher of reli­gion has ever made that argu­ment. Instead, philoso­phers of reli­gion tend to for­mu­late argu­ments for a personal cause of the universe from the origin of physical reality like this:

(6) Every­thing that comes into exis­tence has a cause.

(7) Phys­i­cal real­ity came into existence.

(8) (So) phys­i­cal real­ity had a cause.

(9) If phys­i­cal real­ity had a cause, phys­i­cal real­ity had a per­sonal cause.

(10) (So) phys­i­cal real­ity had a per­sonal cause.

Can you see the difference?

Adam: Sure. Okay, let’s run with that argu­ment. It still doesn’t say what caused God.

Chris: No, it doesn’t. But I don’t think it really makes much sense to ask what caused God. After all, God is sup­posed to be eter­nal, which means—among other things—that he never came into exis­tence and never will go out of exis­tence. This argu­ment only says that things which come into exis­tence have causes, right?

Adam: Oh, I see. Spe­cial plead­ing strikes again! God can be eter­nal and phys­i­cal real­ity can’t be? Come on! Why not say that phys­i­cal real­ity never came into exis­tence rather than that God never came into existence?

Chris: Well, there happen to be good rea­sons for thinking that phys­i­cal real­ity isn’t eter­nal. There are philo­soph­i­cal argu­ments and sci­en­tific evi­dences which sug­gest that phys­i­cal real­ity must have come into existence.

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Originally posted on my blog.

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Filed Under: Apologetics Methods, Tactics, & Logic, Arguments for God, First Cause & Other Thomistic Arguments, Kalam Cosmological Argument, Who Designed the Designer?, YEC, OEC, I.D., and Theistic Evolution

Comments

  1. Connor McGinnis says

    November 23, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Adam misses the fact that God isn’t physical anyways. Also, if someone created God, we’d have to ask who created God’s Creator. We then run into the problem of infinite regression.

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